Monday, March 01, 2010

boredom: WAR vs. WARP

Top 10 position players and pitchers by year, since 2002 when they started doing WAR. First slash is WAR, second is WARP. Why am I doing this? Yeah, I dunno.

2002 position players
1. Barry Bonds/Barry Bonds
2. Alex Rodriguez/Jeff Kent
3. Vladimir Guerrero/Shawn Green
4. Brian Giles/Brian Giles
5. Andruw Jones/Alex Rodriguez
6. Jason Giambi, Jim Thome/Jim Edmonds
7. Jeff Kent/Andruw Jones, Jason Giambi
8. Chipper Jones/Bobby Abreu
9. Jim Edmonds/Pat Burrell, Chipper Jones
10. Lance Berkman/Jim Thome

2002 pitchers
1. Curt Schilling/Randy Johnson
2. Randy Johnson/Derek Lowe
3. Pedro Martinez/Roy Oswalt
4. Roy Halladay/Curt Schilling
5. Roy Oswalt/Roy Halladay
6. Derek Lowe/Barry Zito
7. Tim Hudson/Byung-Hyun Kim (!!!!)
8. Kevin Millwood/Pedro Martinez
9. Mike Mussina, Mark Buehrle/Tim Hudson
10. Roger Clemens/Eric Gagne

2003 pos. players
1. Barry Bonds/Barry Bonds
2. Albert Pujols/Bret Boone
3. Alex Rodriguez/Albert Pujols
4. Gary Sheffield/Gary Sheffield
5. Manny Ramirez, Bret Boone/Marcus Giles
6. Scott Rolen/Scott Rolen
7. Todd Helton/Javy Lopez
8. Edgar Renteria/Edgar Renteria, Todd Helton
9. Marcus Giles/Jim Edmonds
10. Lance Berkman/Andruw Jones, Jorge Posada, Alex Rodriguez, Richard Hidalgo

2003 pitchers
1. Roy Halladay/Eric Gagne
2. Pedro Martinez/Roy Halladay
3. Mark Prior/Mark Prior
4. Esteban Loaiza/Esteban Loaiza
5. Jason Schmidt/Pedro Martinez
6. Mike Mussina/Mike Mussina
7. Tim Hudson/Livan Hernandez
8. Javier Vazquez, Kevin Brown/Mariano Rivera
9. Curt Schilling/Kerry Wood
10. Andy Pettitte/Jason Schmidt

2004 position players
1. Barry Bonds/Barry Bonds
2. Adrian Beltre/Adrian Beltre
3. Scott Rolen/Jim Edmonds
4. JD Drew/Scott Rolen, Mark Loretta
5. Jim Edmonds/Albert Pujols
6. Albert Pujols/Miguel Tejada
7. Todd Helton, Miguel Tejada/Todd Helton
8. Alex Rodriguez/Bobby Abreu, JD Drew
9. Ichiro Suzuki, Lance Berkman/Vladimir Guerrero
10. Melvin Mora/Carlos Guillen

2004 pitchers
1. Randy Johnson/Randy Johnson
2. Ben Sheets/Johan Santana
3. Johan Santana/Livan Hernandez, Mariano Rivera
4. Curt Schilling/Carlos Zambrano
5. Jason Schmidt/Ben Sheets
6. Roy Oswalt/Roger Clemens
7. Roger Clemens/Carl Pavano, Roy Oswalt
8. Pedro Martinez, Brad Radke/Curt Schilling, Armando Benitez
9. Tim Hudson/Jake Peavy, Jason Schmidt
10. Mark Buehrle/Brad Lidge, Oliver Perez, Francisco Cordero

2005 position players
1. Alex Rodriguez/Albert Pujols
2. Andruw Jones/Alex Rodriguez
3. Albert Pujols/Rafael Furcal
4. Derrek Lee/Morgan Ensberg
5. Chase Utley/Derrek Lee
6. Jason Bay/Jason Bay
7. Morgan Ensberg/Jim Edmonds, David Wright
8. Brian Roberts/Brian Giles
9. Jim Edmonds/Miguel Cabrera, Andruw Jones
10. David Ortiz, David Wright, Brian Giles/Chase Utley, Jeff Kent

2005 pitchers
1. Johan Santana/Dontrelle Willis
2. Chris Carpenter/Roger Clemens
3. Mark Buehrle/Mariano Rivera
4. Dontrelle Willis/Andy Pettitte
5. Roger Clemens, Roy Oswalt/Roy Oswalt
6. John Lackey, Pedro Martinez/Brandon Webb
7. Andy Pettitte/Jake Peavy
8. John Smoltz, Brandon Webb/Johan Santana
9. AJ Burnett, Jake Peavy/Chris Carpenter
10. Randy Johnson, Esteban Loaiza/Carlos Zambrano
(Understatement: the 2005 Astros had a really good pitching staff.)

2006 position players
1. Albert Pujols/Albert Pujols
2. Grady Sizemore/Carlos Beltran
3. Ryan Howard, Carlos Beltran/Alfonso Soriano
4. Chase Utley/Grady Sizemore
5. Miguel Cabrera/Miguel Cabrera
6. Lance Berkman/Lance Berkman, Joe Mauer, Ryan Howard
7. Derek Jeter/Travis Hafner
8. Travis Hafner/Jamey Carroll
9. Andruw Jones/Chase Utley
10. Carlos Guillen, Joe Mauer, Garret Atkins/Nick Johnson

2006 pitchers
1. Johan Santana/Brandon Webb
2. Brandon Webb/Bronson Arroyo
3. Jeremy Bonderman/Jonathan Papelbon
4. John Lackey/Mariano Rivera, John Smoltz, Johan Santana
5. John Smoltz, Roy Oswalt, Roy Halladay/Roy Oswalt
6. Curt Schilling, CC Sabathia/Joe Nathan
7. Aaron Harang/Carlos Zambrano
8. Mike Mussina, Chris Carpenter/Roy Halladay
9. Kevin Millwood/Chris Carpenter, BJ Ryan
10. Erik Bedard/Francisco Rodriguez

2007 position players
1. Alex Rodriguez/Albert Pujols
2. Magglio Ordonez/David Wright
3. David Wright/Alex Rodriguez
4. Chase Utley, Matt Holliday/Magglio Ordonez, Troy Tulowitzki
5. Albert Pujols/Chase Utley
6. Curtis Granderson/Hanley Ramirez
7. Chipper Jones/Chipper Jones, Matt Holliday
8. Jorge Posada/Curtis Granderson
9. David Ortiz, Jimmy Rollins/David Ortiz
10. Carlos Pena/Jimmy Rollins

2007 pitchers
1. CC Sabathia/Jake Peavy
2. Brandon Webb/JJ Putz
3. Josh Beckett/Roy Oswalt
4. Jake Peavy/John Lackey
5. Joe Blanton, Roy Halladay, John Lackey/Brandon Webb
6. John Smoltz/Fausto Carmona
7. Erik Bedard/Brad Penny
8. Scott Kazmir, Tim Hudson/Tim Hudson
9. Kelvim Escobar, Aaron Harang/CC Sabathia
10. Javier Vazquez/Takashi Saito

2008 position players
1. Albert Pujols/Albert Pujols
2. Chase Utley/Lance Berkman
3. Chipper Jones/Hanley Ramirez, Chipper Jones
4. David Wright/Carlos Beltran
5. Hanley Ramirez/Chase Utley
6. Lance Berkman/David Wright
7. Carlos Beltran, Dustin Pedroia/Dustin Pedroia
8. Grady Sizemore/Joe Mauer, Ryan Ludwick
9. Matt Holliday, Nick Markakis/Jose Reyes, Alex Rodriguez
10. Alex Rodriguez/Nick Markakis

2008 pitchers
1. Tim Lincecum/Mariano Rivera (holla.)
2. Roy Halladay/Tim Lincecum
3. Cliff Lee/Brandon Webb
4. Dan Haren/Johan Santana, Cliff Lee, Ryan Dempster
5. Brandon Webb/Jake Peavy
6. Ervin Santana/Dan Haren
7. AJ Burnett/Roy Halladay
8. Mike Mussina/John Danks
9. John Danks/Cole Hamels, Joakim Soria
10. Jon Lester, Ryan Dempster/Edinson Volquez

2009 position players
1. Ben Zobrist (lol)/Albert Pujols
2. Albert Pujols/Adrian Gonzalez
3. Joe Mauer/Joe Mauer
4. Chase Utley/Chase Utley
5. Derek Jeter/Hanley Ramirez
6. Evan Longoria, Hanley Ramirez/Ben Zobrist
7. Ryan Zimmerman/Evan Longoria
8. Prince Fielder/Prince Fielder, Ryan Braun, Matt Kemp
9. Adrian Gonzalez/Yunel Escobar
10. Chone Figgins/Ryan Zimmerman

2009 pitchers
1. Zack Greinke/Zack Greinke
2. Justin Verlander, Tim Lincecum/Dan Haren
3. Roy Halladay/Roy Halladay
4. Felix Hernandez/Javier Vazquez, Ubaldo Jimenez
5. Javier Vazquez/Tim Lincecum
6. Jon Lester/Josh Johnson
7. Dan Haren/Jair Jurrjens, Chris Carpenter
8. CC Sabathia/Adam Wainwright
9. Adam Wainwright, Ubaldo Jimenez/Mariano Rivera
10. Chris Carpenter/Matt Cain

Also, seriously, how much does WARP hate Jeter? It's kind of ridiculous. He was #32 in 2006 and #44 in 2009. #44!!!! Behind such luminaries as Brendan Ryan, Wandy Rodriguez, Yadier Molina, Casey Blake, and some closers. That's silly.

And WARP really overrates relief pitching. But Mo being supposedly the #1 pitcher in all of baseball in 2008 is pretty fucking badass.